I bought a pair of Size M after seeing my Son's shorter length version. Fit a treat with the padded liner ( I'm 30/32 waist ) Baggy and very comfortable even with pockets full of stuff. Seem very durable, well made and nice looking. Washed mine a couple of times and they dry fast. Whilst being baggy they do not look saggy when Hiking in them so I bought a pair Size S just for Hiking/Walking. They fit nice and comfy, and seem just as roomy as the M apart from the leg length maybe a cm or so shorter. The liner however is too small for me, so bear in mind that if deciding on what size to get be aware that whilst the Small are baggy enough to be OK for a small M, but the liner won't be. Overall, an excellent pair of well designed Cycling /Walking shorts that I hope will last forever. ( Anyone needing a pair of new size S liner let me know )