I am a big fan of Endura stuff but these gloves disappoint. Only recently purchased and this weekend, they saw their first rain conditions and my hands were not dry (wet; subsequently cold and wet) and at the end of a 2hr mtb ride.. Fine for occasional drizzle, not for actual rain. Plus points are good fit and good padding but you can get that in other gloves and I bought these for waterproof winter MTBing, but they won't suffice - real shame